What is it the Greens are really about??

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After reading Andrew Bolt’s Blog on Friday 5th December 2014 and seeing that Rise Up Australia Party received a mention, I feel I have to comment. It was plain to see that Andrew Bolt understood the hypocrisy of the Greens message to the public, who no doubt are trying to cash in on the misconceptions of what it means to have a Multicultural society. The Greens love to spread the word that Rise Up Australia Party is a racist Party…. but Why?

Andrew Bolt in his article quotes the Greens as saying, ……under the Heading of… The Greens love diversity in theory:

Australia’s strength lies in the cultural diversity of people from all corners of the globe, the Australian Greens said today…. Our country has been greatly enriched by successive generations of immigrants whose influence is reflected in every facet of society.

It is interesting that the Greens should say this, when this cultural diversity that they are applauding, is not even reflected in their own party.

In contrast with the Greens of course is Rise Up Australia who are labelled racist by the Greens, yet have candidates and members from 40 plus different ethnic backgrounds, including; indigenous Australians, people from diverse parts of Africa, Papua NG, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Samoa, The Philippines, South America, Sri Lanka, Greece, Italy, The Netherlands, Germany, The UK. Romania, India, New Zealand, Hungary and the list goes on. How then can they say, we are ‘racist’.

It is said, a picture is worth a thousand words and Andrew has so aptly supplied a picture of Greens candidates and politicians. Not one of them is coloured, not much diversity either, consisting of 90% aging women and balding Caucasian men. On the other hand he has also supplied a very colourful picture of RUA Party candidates and Members. The irony of the Greens concerns is, that RUA is depicted as very ethnic and non Caucasian as the posted picture demonstrates, quite the contrary to what they are trying to convey.

So then, are the Greens colour blind? Or do they have another agenda? Or are they on the same ‘Band Wagon’ as Age writer, Ruby Hamad? Ruby says, ‘that Rise Up Australia party is far right, ultra nationalist, evangelical Christian, anti abortion and an anti immigration party that has an extraordinary amount of gender and diversity.’ This is a contradictory statement in itself; how can the party be anti immigration and have an extraordinary amount of racial diversity within its ranks?   None the less, Ruby, who is Muslim, goes on to ask, “How can this be”? Then she answers her own question with her own conclusion. That being;   that RUAP has carefully devised a clever trick to get non white people to spout racist rhetoric (in support of a non multicultural society – I presume).

Bolt observes that Hamad dams the Multi ethnic RUAP and not the Mono-ethnic white Greens for being, ‘too racist and too white, the colour of evil’…… Is she also colour blind????

No I fear not, it is her last comment that truly reveals to us what her ’biff’ is:

“Whiteness is essentially those cultural beliefs, practices, norms and values that are sanctioned by white western society.”

What she does not want to say is that white western society, along with Rise Up Australia is founded on Judeo Christian values; this is her real issue. So she continues to say: “Rise up Australia is an example of how you can share in the bounty of white privilege even if you are not white, as long as you are willing to play by the rules. And one of the rules is to talk about race in a way that legitimises the dominance of white culture”.

This is a completely unsupported argument. Why would RUAP go about rounding up non white members to give them rules by which they must abide by so they can have the benefits of white supremacy? This is a farfetched ridiculous statement. I think someone should let Ruby know that the Australian Govt has already set in place for all immigrants – asylum seekers, legal residents and citizens, whether they are black, pink, yellow, brown or white, equal opportunity and anti discrimination laws which carry heavy penalties for those who abuse them.

What Ruby Hamad and the Greens are really saying is that Rise Up Australia is promoting the principles of Western society which are based on Judeo Christian values and the Westminster system of law which is called British common law on which this nation was founded. And please tell, what is wrong with that? Judeo Christian values promote equality of race and gender, freedom of speech and religion and a law system that stipulates fairness and justice for all without bias to any religion, colour or gender.

So let’s move on now to why Ruby calls Rise Up Australia Party “Far Right” Well if far right means we are patriotic Australians loving our freedoms, proudly embracing a multi-ethnic society where all people can work together to build healthier, non violent communities under Australian law and no other, which is what RUAP stands for, then ‘Far Right’ has taken on a completely new meaning to the Fascist, Nazism that I always associated it with.

Could it be that Ruby Hamad is the one that is really ‘Far Right’ advocating the Supremacist views of Islam?

Under Islam there is no freedom of speech, religion or dress (for women) nor is there equality of gender or race subscribing to the belief that Islam is superior and should dominate totally, the whole world under one Government, Islamic Government. And according to their rules in the book they live by – The Koran – all non Muslims (Infidels) eventually will be given the ‘choice’ to either convert to Islam, pay a tax to live, or be executed. The distressing truth is the Greens have been too ‘green’ to even bother researching world trends and politics in Europe and the Middle East to be informed of this reality.  Maybe this is because sadly, they are too yellow to admit they are really Red.

Yvonne Gentle,

Victorian State President RUAP

Posted on December 8, 2014 in Uncategorized

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  1. Sam
    December 11, 2014 at 5:16 pm ·

    Whist you are contemplating on my last response I suggest you have a look this link, http://riseupaustraliaparty.com/?p=5167

    Scroll down to view my comments. This was a friendly discussion I had with RUAP which addresses some of the points you raised above however If you are still not satisfied then I can elucidate.

    I look foward to your response.

    • Yvonne Gentle
      January 14, 2015 at 9:25 am ·

      Dear Sam,
      My apologies for taking so long to respond to your last post, but as you are probably aware I took a break over the Christmas New Year period. By the way, I wish you a Peaceful and HAPPY NEW YEAR.
      In your last post, you declare that Islam is a religion of peace (non violent); therefore I am assuming you would be of the same opinion as other Muslim leaders, that the recent terrorist attack in Sydney was the work of a single, unbalanced madman. And that similar terror attacks on western societies are played out by disturbed human beings who do not reflect the fundamental nature of true Islam. Comprehensive evidence however, gathered worldwide does not support this view. The Sydney Perpetrator Monis, was focused, cold and calculating and knew exactly what he was doing. His intention was to strike fear and terror into his hostages and also the Australian Public while the world looked on, and all in the name of Allah. He was supported by his co murdering de facto wife who was also well aware of what she was doing and why she was doing it. (1) Both of them supported ISIS and were advocating Islam as superior and for world domination through religion, Governmental control and culture.
      If Islam is a religion of peace, why is it that currently worldwide, it is only Muslims that consistently engage in terrorist activities against other faiths, hold demonstrations calling for the beheading of those that insult their Prophet and execute violence and murder upon those that offend them? Also, where is the peace between the Sunni and the Shiite people? They passionately hate each other and Iran is even on the verge of civil war.
      Recent history points to Islamic groups being responsible for much of the worlds Terror. Remember: 9-11, the Twin Towers in New York where 2,996 people were killed and property loss/damages exceeded $10 billion; the Bali bombings killing 202 and injured 209; the 2005 London underground train and bus suicide bombings; the vicious fatal attack on a British soldier in London last year; the Endeavour Hills stabbing in Melbourne, September last; (2) and last week 12 people are murdered in France as revenge over French satirical magazine cartoonists who ‘blasphemed’ the name of Islam and the Prophet. Incidentally they made fun of everyone including Christianity, the Pope and heads of State, but only Islam reverts to Terrorism, killing innocent people because they think it is their duty to execute Jihad on the infidel. The list goes on and on it’s almost endless. Were the Masterminds behind these attacks and the like all psychotic? I doubt it!! In September 2012 there was an Islamic demonstration (pictured left) in Sydney against Australians who expressed their views (free speech) on the practice of Mohammad taking child brides. Are the parents of this 5 year old boy also unbalanced, for giving him such a violent poster to hold? And what of the others that carried placards that day are they also psychotic? I don’t think so, I think they are fairly average thinking Muslims, in the minority maybe, because they are blatantly unashamed enough to get out there and portray the true thinking behind Islam. Sam, there is nothing peaceful about letting a small boy carry a very explicit poster which states, “Behead all those who insult the Prophet”. It is a basic liberty in Australian culture, to be able to speak out against what you believe is wrong. If Muslims don’t like that, don’t come to Australia, don’t live here and don’t try to change us, it is our right to stay AUSTRALIAN. Above – Sydney Riots September 2012 . Last November a young Melbourne, Turkish Woman sneaks out of Australia without her parent’s knowledge, to marry an Islamic State Jihadi playboy in Syria. “She is one of a string of (Muslim) Australians seduced by the Islamic state Death Cult”, says the Herald Sun newspaper on December 29th 2014. Is she wacky (well some might think so,) or just a young Muslim ideologist who is prepared to support her man in what she believes is for the defence of Allah?
      2015 is only 12 days old and daily we hear of some kind of anarchy involving Muslims. We see Islam exercising hatred, violence, and fascism in various places. Terror attacks by Islamic Fundamentalists to further an ostensible Islamic religious or political cause are occurring globally. Terrorists have used such tactics as suicide bombings, spree killings, hijackings, kidnappings and beheadings.
      Below are just a few recent headlines:
      1. “Tribesmen Killed by Islamic State”. VICE News. Retrieved January 7, 2015.
      2. “Dozens killed in Nigeria bomb blasts”. Al Jazeera and agencies. Retrieved January 7, 2015.
      3. “Isis ‘executes 150 women for refusing to marry militants’ and buries them in mass graves”. The Times of India. Retrieved January 7, 2015.
      4. “Suicide bomber kills 33 people south of Baghdad”. Kevin Liffey.- Reuters.
      5. “Al-Shab=ab Attack in Mogadishu Leaves 9 Dead,(Somalia) AU Mission Says”. VOA News-Voice of America.
      6. “ Boko Haram slaughter dozens in Cameroon village”. SAPA News.- News 24.
      7. “At least 12 killed in shooting at office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo”. Twelve dead and eleven injured on the 7th of January. – CNN
      8. “Hundreds-feared-killed-by-boko-haram-in-nigeria” – Nigerian Islamist militant group Boko Haram group has killed civilians in the town of Baga, in northern Nigeria. According to official Musa Alhaji Bukar, speaking to the BBC, “the assault on Baga may have left up to 2,000 people dead.” – January 8, 2015.
      9. Attack on Jewish Supermarket – Four people were shot and killed during a siege at a kosher market in Paris on Friday January 9th.. A Paris prosecutor told the Associated Press the gunmen shot the victims when they entered the store.
      French Prime Minister Manuel Valls declared: that the country is at war with radical Islam.
      Tony Blair has told Sky News: radical Islam is a “global problem”…. “and will need a global response,”…… “even if we deal with this Isis group, you’ve got a plethora of these types of groups, not just in the Middle East but in North Africa and elsewhere in the world”.
      The Australian Govt. recognises Islam as a Terrorist threat: In an Australian Government Publication it is stated: Transnational terrorism in particular is identified as a threat to Australia driven by radical Islam (3)
      Muslim statistics on Terrorism from WikiIslam, the online resource on Islam. Data was collected on 400 terrorists by this source, showing 90 percent came from caring, intact families; 63 percent had gone to college and were the best and brightest of their societies in many ways. They were engineers, architects, civil engineers, but mostly scientists. Surprisingly very few had any background in religion. Seventy three percent were married and the vast majority had children. Their most important characteristic is normalcy. Terrorist leaders actually tend to come from relatively privileged backgrounds. There was no link between poverty and support for militant groups. These conclusions are firmly supported by ‘empirical analysi’. Comparing the world’s Muslim population as a whole, most global jihadis are not illiterates raised in poor families. Sunni Muslims alone without the Shiites committed more than 70% of terrorist murders in 2011. The Religion Of Peace’s count was very conservative with 90 per cent of those on whom info had been collected described as sociable, with a number of friends. Our data thus tends to contradict commonly held stereotypes of terrorists being “mad”, psychopathic or evil. – Conclusion: fairly normal individuals within the movement of Islam, not psychopaths, commit the atrocities mentioned above.
      Some of the above information comes from the 2011 National Counterterrorism Centre (NCTC) Report on Terrorism, and is based on information available as of March 12, 2012.
      This paradigm that Islam has portrayed in recent years is not new. History tells us that where ever they have ascendancy they will exercise religious cleansing, oppression and disproportion.
      Below is one of the many ethnic/religious cleansings that has taken place over the last one hundred years
      The world turned its head while large-scale “religious cleansing” took place by Turkish Muslims. The Armenians of Turkey endured mass slaughter at the hands of the Ottoman Turks. The centuries of Turkish (Muslim) rule reduced Asia Minor, the epicentre of western civilization and Christendom, into a bloody Islamic cesspool which culminated in genocide by Turks against Armenian and Greek Christian populations. The Armenian Genocide, occurred when 2 million Armenians living in Turkey were eliminated from their historic homeland through forced deportation and massacres by the Turks.
      As Turkish authorities forced them out of eastern Turkey, Armenians say they lost 1.5 million people in 1915-23, during and after World War I. Turkey said the death count was inflated and that the deaths were a result of civil unrest. To this day Turkey denies the Armenian genocide, but history cannot be hidden or rewritten, nor can the testimonies of those that endured yet survived the ordeal.
      Armenia still survives today but with only a population of around 3,000,000
      2009 Poster (lleft) with faces of some of the few remaining Armenian Genocide survivors
      Below – Another example of Islamic philosophy – Not a madman – Again religious cleansing is the objective. TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) — Iran’s new president has repeated ……..” insisting that a new series of attacks will destroy the Jewish state, and lashes out at Muslim countries and leaders that acknowledge Israel. The president then said: “And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism,” according to a quote published by IRNA. The remarks by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad — reported by Islamic Republic News Agency — coincide with a month-long protest against Israel called “World without Zionism”. – Thursday,October 27, 2005 Posted: 0727 GMT (1527 HKT. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. (4) Ayatollah Khomeini’s comment on Israel.
      Why is it then that Islam, contrary to the cries, “we are a religion of peace” is actually a regime of Violence? Maybe this research by a Danish psychologist can add some light. I have reduced the study quite significantly for the purpose of this article.
      Nicolai Sennels is a Danish psychologist and Author employed by the Copenhagen youth prison Sønderbro, He addresses, ‘Why Muslims are more violent and criminal than their Danish national counterparts’.
      He says, …“the crime rate among Muslims in the West is catastrophically high”. Seven out of 10 inmates in Danish youth prisons have Muslim immigrant backgrounds. The question is of course….. Why are Muslims so much more criminal, violent and seemingly more non-empathetic than non-Muslims?
      He says we have to acknowledge the psychological differences between Muslims and Westerners if we want to understand the unsuccessful integration of Muslims in the West and its increasingly problematic consequences.
      In Copenhagen’s youth prison, the first seven or eight places on the top-10 list of criminals’ nationality are occupied by immigrants from Muslim countries. This list is published by the Danish state’s Bureau of Statistics. The statistics also show that crime rates among immigrants get worse, not better, in subsequent generations. . Second generation non-Western immigrants are five times more violent than Danes.
      A psychological profile of the Muslim culture has become evident. – Honour vs. Insecurity.
      In Western societies we see it as a sign of strength, and an honourable attitude if we are able to face criticism with a calm and clear attitude. Being able to take criticism and take it into account when relevant is seen as an important aspect of being a dignified and self-confident. And the ability to think or say, “That is your opinion about me/my values but I have differently views, is necessary in our critical, democratic and transparent culture.
      Meeting criticism with hostility and threats, on the other hand, is seen as lack of self-control and is not honourable at all – at least not in Western culture.

      As in the case of the Danish, Mohammed cartoons showed more clearly than anything else, the Muslim concept of honour lies on the other end of the scale. What we in the West would categorize as an insecure and childish response to criticism is seen by Muslims as a fair and honourable reaction to unjust insults. What other people think and say about Muslims means a lot to them. The combination of social acceptance of aggressive behaviour and an exceedingly fragile attitude to honour constitutes an explosive cocktail. The simple and natural demand for integration in our western societies is seen by many Muslims as an unwelcome criticism of their own culture, fuelling many resident Muslims’ to be at enmity towards their non-Islamic surroundings.
      Victim mentality – ‘locus of control’. Locus of control is a psychological term that describes whether people experience their lives as controlled mainly by inner or by outer factors. In Western societies we are told that we ourselves are the main ones responsible for our lives. The way we think, act, handle our emotions, communicate, react, etc. determines whether we create harmonious and satisfying moments or not. The basic advice in our culture is to look at ourselves if we want to locate the causes of our personal problems. We are raised to think that talking about one’s problems can bring new and better solutions to one’s life (Inner locus of control).This makes sense to us.
      Asking a Muslim to take a look at his own inner and outer reactions in order to find the reasons for his problems is simply not a relevant question for them. Muslim clients mainly see the sources for their suffering as outer factors; an unfair society and non-Islamic authorities are the general scapegoats. Westerners tend to ask themselves, “What did I do wrong?” when experiencing problems, where as Muslims tend to ask, “Who did this to me?” Muslim clients did not see it as their responsibility to integrate into our society —most do not see any reason for integrating, are not allowed to by their family and friends, or are simply not able to live up to Western standards even if they wanted to. The same was almost always the case concerning the crimes they had been charged with: It was the victim’s own fault – he or she had “provoked” or tempted them beyond their means. My Muslim clients thus felt “forced” to attack their victim by the victim, or by outer religious or cultural pressure and expectations.
      Finally, there is a very important psychological trait that concerns a Muslims’ identity. While equality and tolerance are promoted as some of our basic values, there is a very strong discrimination between Muslims and non-Muslims among Muslims. Although not an expert in Islamic scriptures – I studied them to understand my Muslim clients – and have concluded that this discrimination is probably inspired by the Islamic scriptures, in which the term “infidel” (non-Muslim) appears 347 times. Most Muslims see themselves as Moroccans, Somalis and Pakistanis, etc. living in another country -. Almost all of them feel alienated towards westerners and in opposition to our society. This shocked me, because many of these clients were second or third generation immigrants in our country. This tendency unfortunately fits very well with research in France, Germany and Denmark.
      It’s “us” and “them”, (Muslims and non-Muslims) which has very concrete consequences — to non-Muslims. Most Muslim inmates are charged with some kind of violence, robbery and/or attempted murder. Unless it happened in connection with rival Muslim gangs or was honour-related, the victims were always non-Muslims.
      It has been proven that racist discrimination is learned, not inherent:
      Brain waves connected with feelings of empathy are stronger when seeing suffering among people from one’s own ethnic group. The conclusion is therefore that we are less likely to feel the pain of people from other races. After having studied the Quran and having had more than a hundred Muslim clients, it is clear that the discrimination against non-Muslims that exists in Muslim communities lessens Muslims empathy with non-Muslims, and this makes it more psychologically easy for them to dislike and harm us.
      Sennels includes this comment in his article
      An important part of leading one’s army to victory is to demonize the enemy through propaganda; thereby diminishing empathy and making the soldiers hate the enemy.
      Sam, I do not believe that terrorist attacks like the Lint Cafe Siege are carried out by infrequent, psychotic people who do not reflect the true image of Islam. As I have shown there is a distinct agenda behind True Islam, and Islamic Terrorism which has been around for centuries. Now that Islam has infiltrated into the western nations it has shown no regard for the laws and culture of its host countries, and has exercised the freedoms and liberties the host country has given them to turn on the host and insist that they change so as not to offend Islam. As Islam spreads and breeds to become the majority in the host country, they endeavour to take control by various means, subsequently inflicting violence, religious cleansing and oppression on its citizens. There is NO Peace for the westerner on this course – only if they submit by force, (Jihad)
      So if the lust for dominance which brings violence and insurgence does not come from the Quaran, Where does it come from? Are the radical and militant Muslims just naturally violent, religious, egotistical people who believe, it’s their way or the highway? I mean where they born that way or did they learn it?
      You mentioned that I had taken the Quaran out of context when I quoted various verses that were obviously violent toward non Muslims. According to these 3 verses in the Quran those that reject the teachings of Allah and do not believe are merely the vilest of animals. ……………… Surah … 8:54: In the manner of the people of Firon and those before them; they rejected the communications of their Lord, therefore We destroyed them on account of their faults and We drowned Firon’s people, and they were all unjust.
      8:55: Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe.
      98:6: Surely those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book and the polytheists shall be in the fire of hell, abiding therein; they are the worst of men.

      (No matter in what context you put these verses above, the message would not change – It is loud and clear. ’Destroy those who do not believe because they are vile and inferior- therefore worthy of death.)
      Below, I have text from the Quaran consisting of 14 cosecutive verses written I’m told, by the Prophet Mohammad.
      Surah …
      .8:1: They ask you about the windfalls. Say: The windfalls are for Allah and the Apostle. So be careful of (your duty to) Allah and set aright matters of your difference, and obey Allah and His Apostle if you are believers

      8:2; Those only are believers whose hearts become full of fear when Allah is mentioned, and when His communications are recited to them they increase them in faith, and in their Lord do they trust.
      8:3: Those who keep up prayer and spend (benevolently) out of what We have given them.
      8:4: These are the believers in truth; they shall have from their Lord exalted grades and forgiveness and an honourable sustenance.
      8:5: Even as your Lord caused you to go forth from your house with the truth, though a party of the believers were surely averse;
      8:6: They disputed with you about the truth after it had become clear, (and they went forth) as if they were being driven to death while they saw (it).

      8:7: And when Allah promised you one of the two parties that it shall be yours and you loved that the one not armed should he yours and Allah desired to manifest the truth of what was true by His words and to cut off the root of the unbelievers
      8:8: That He may manifest the truth of what was true and show the falsehood of what was false, though the guilty disliked.

      8:9: When you sought aid from your Lord, so He answered you: I will assist you with a thousand of the angels following one another.

      8:10: And Allah only gave it as a good news and that your hearts might be at ease thereby; and victory is only from Allah; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.

      8:11: When He caused calm to fall on you as a security from Him and sent down upon you water from the cloud that He might thereby purify you, and take away from you the uncleanness of the Shaitan, and that He might fortify your hearts and steady (your) footsteps thereby.

      8:12: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

      8:13: This is because they acted adversely to Allah and His Apostle; and whoever acts adversely to Allah and His Apostle — then surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil).

      8:14: This — taste it, and (know) that for the unbelievers is the chastisement of fire.

      Compare the Teachings of Mohammad, above with the Teachings of Jesus, below.
      I have read chapters of the Quaran and I find that it is very hard to establish the structure of the text as it jumps from subject to subject making the passages Incoherent.
      Mohammad talks of Violence and the script is disjointed, Jesus speaks of moving away from the teachings of men and teaches on love and repaying evil with good. The script is flowing and the theme does not change.
      Matthew Chapter 5 – Jesus Teaching.
      33 Again, ye have heard that it was said to them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
      34 but I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by the heaven, for it is the throne of God;
      35 nor by the earth, for it is the footstool of his feet; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.
      36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, for thou canst not make one hair white or black.
      37 But let your speech be, Yea, yea; or Nay, nay: and whatsoever is more than these is of the evil one.
      38 Ye have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
      39 but I say unto you, resist not him that is evil: but whosoever smiteth thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
      40 And if any man would go to law with thee, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
      41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go one mile, go with him two.
      42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not away.
      43 Ye have heard that it was said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy:
      44 but I say unto you, love your enemies, and pray for them that persecute you;
      45 that ye may be sons of your Father who is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and the unjust.
      46 For if ye love them that love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
      47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the Gentiles the same?
      48 Ye therefore be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

      In conclusion I would like to point out that there are some very nice peaceful Muslim, people whom I know and like. But these people do not represent true Islam; they do not agree with all the teachings of the Quaran; they do not support Sharia Law and they believe in giving their allegiance to Australia and in keeping Australia Australian. Unfortunately these are not the people that are driving Islam, in this country or any other.
      Best wishes and Happy New Year once again,
      Yvonne Gentle

      (1) Face book posts.
      (2)Endeavour Hills stabbings (copied from terrorist attacks in Australia- internet search)[
      On 23 September 2014 an 18-year-old man, Numan Haider, was shot and killed by police outside EndeavourHills police station. Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius said Haider had been asked to come to the police station to discuss behaviour “which had been causing some concern”. When the man arrived outside the station, he stabbed the two officers as they went to meet him. The two stabbed officers, one from Victoria Police and one from the Australian Federal Police, were working together as part of a joint operation on counter-terrorism between the AFP and Victoria Police. Haider was found to be carrying two knives and an Islamic State flag.
      (3) Commonwealth of Australia (15 July 2004). “Transnational Terrorism: The Threat to Australia” (PDF). 1.0. Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. ISBN 1-920959-04-1. Retrieved 12 April 2008
      (4) Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of Iran’s Islamic revolution, said that Israel “must be wiped out from the map of the world.” – IRNA.

  2. Sam
    December 11, 2014 at 5:08 pm ·

    Dear Yvonne,

    I can see that you have clearly taken verses out of context. Now I am planning to address each verses you have quoted.

    Let’s make one thing clear that you won’t go punishing the legislator when people don’t obey the law. In this case would you chastise the Australian Government if the vigilantes create disorder? No you will make vigilantes accountable.

    The actions of the radicalised Muslims should not in any way reflect poorly on the Quran and the Prophet Muhammed.

    You are claiming that it’s the Quran and the Prophet prescribing the Muslims to promote violence but if I can prove that it is not the case, are you willing to look at my evidence with a non prejudice mind?

    lets say hypethicallly, I provided sufficient evidence then are you willing to accept that Islam is a non violent religion?

    I am eagerly awaiting your response.

    Thank you

  3. Nathan
    December 8, 2014 at 3:17 pm ·

    Isn’t it rather mean-spirited of you to mention the fact that some of the men in the Greens photo are balding? Is ability to grow a luxurious head of hair now somehow related to diversity?

    Regarding your rhetorical question “how can the party be anti immigration and have an extraordinary amount of racial diversity within its ranks?” – the answer you didn’t really ask for is that perhaps a person’s race doesn’t predetermine their political views, and that even recent immigrants may, potentially, think that putting a cap on immigration is a good idea. In practice many immigrants are all for further immigration, but that feeling isn’t universal. And of course some people are all for immigration as long as we only accept “the right type” of immigrant. Note that I’m not saying this actually applies to your membership, I’m just pointing out that this concept isn’t as self-contradictory as you imply.

    • Yvonne Gentle
      December 11, 2014 at 1:31 pm ·

      Dear Nathan,
      I am sorry if I have offended you. Take heart, Balding, they say is a sign of maturity and wisdom. Not that I am making a concession that the Greens have or have not either of these virtues.
      My point was not meant to be derogative in any sense. I was simply pointing out in a subtle yet obvious manner that baldness is a characteristic that one could bestow on white Caucasian men more so than Asian or African. My research on the subject and also my own observation has revealed that white Caucasian men bald at twice the rate of their African and Asian counterparts. For example, one in two Caucasian males will bald compared to one in four Asian.
      In response to your comment, “that perhaps a person’s race doesn’t predetermine their political views, and that even recent immigrants may, potentially, think that putting a cap on immigration is a good idea. In practice many immigrants are all for further immigration, but that feeling isn’t universal”.
      Perhaps you are right in what you say, but this does not determine that what you have said is in any way conflicting with our views on immigration. An Immigrants thinking on immigration is varied as you point out and is, as I would like to emphasise, irrelevant to our policy making on this matter. It is not up to the immigrant to establish the standards and conditions by which they are accepted into this country. Rather it is the immigrant’s responsibility to decide whether this is the country in which they are happy to live and abide by the law and practices already instituted in the nation.
      You also said, “And of course some people are all for immigration as long as we only accept “the right type” of immigrant. Note that I’m not saying this actually applies to your membership, I’m just pointing out that this concept isn’t as self-contradictory as you imply.”
      I fail to see that this comment has any bearing on whether what I said was self contradictory or not. It is obvious that we are not racist as we applaud all nationalities to come into this country; however, of course they have to be of a certain calibre, it is not in the national interest to open the door and say, “come in all and sundry”. We do not invite in to our nation as immigrants people that are not prepared to contribute, people that are suspected terrorists or have criminal records, etc. This I think you should be able to asses would cause unnecessary burdens on the nations people.
      To help you determine what a racist is, I include this dictionary definition. The dictionary states the following:
      Racist: An advocate or supporter of racism; a person whose words or actions display racial prejudice or discrimination. Also in extended use: a person who is prejudiced against people of other nationalities. Cf. RACIALIST n. Note: ones political views have nothing to do with racism.
      The policy of Rise Up Australia is clear. People of all origins and faiths and colour are welcome to make Australia home, provided they are willing to become Australians and to discard those belief systems and elements in the laws of their country of origin that run directly counter to Australian law.
      Yvonne Gentle

  4. Sam
    December 8, 2014 at 12:57 pm ·

    Yvonne Gentke,

    you quoted below “Under Islam there is no freedom of speech, religion or dress (for women) nor is there equality of gender or race subscribing to the belief that Islam is superior and should dominate totally, the whole world under one Government, Islamic Government. And according to their rules in the book they live by – The Koran – all non Muslims (Infidels) eventually will be given the ‘choice’ to either convert to Islam, pay a tax to live, or be executed. The distressing truth is the Greens have been too ‘green’ to even bother researching world trends and politics in Europe and the Middle East to be informed of this reality. Maybe this is because sadly, they are too yellow to admit they are really Red.”

    Can i ask you to support your claims as to where did you get this from the Holy Quran?

    I am eagerly awaiting your response.

    • Yvonne Gentle
      December 11, 2014 at 8:06 am ·

      Dear Sam –

      Thank you very much for your interest.

      My son lived in an Islamic nation for 7 years and during that time I was able to have some hands on experience myself as to how the ‘other side’ lives.
      I am not going to attempt to justify my statement (on the 8th) with someone that is already convinced otherwise on matters of Islam; however if you are a Muslim who is really seeking the truth I can give you some references to look up.
      These references are near-uniformly in the form of often extreme hate-speech, and arguably constitute the offence of incitement to Kill/murder under Australian law. As you will know, later passages in the Koran/Quran rescind earlier passages, and the suras are not arranged chronologically but, for some reason, in order of chapter length. Sura 9, in which one of various incitements to murder occurs at ayah 5, is unfortunately one of the later chapters chronologically, and accordingly overturns the more emollient passages of earlier date.

      Sura 9 also contains explicit mentions of the jizyah, the tax or tribute payable by non-Muslims to Muslim states in which they live. See ayahs 23 and 29, for instance. As you will also know, the jizyah is payable under a contract by which the life of the unbeliever is contingent upon meeting the contractual obligation to pay the tax. Beheading is the penalty for default.

      Sura 3:110 describes Muslims as being superior and most people of the book (Jews and Christians) as being perverted transgressors.

      Some verses in the Koran/Quran to look at:

      • Quran 8:12 – Strike terror into non believers, strike off their heads.
      • Quran 8:38 – Fight them until all religions become Allah’s.
      • Quran 9:5 – Kill the polytheists wherever you find them
      • Quran 9:29 – Fight those who do not believe in Allah – Fight until they give jizyah (tax)

      As for equality of gender and the attitude of Muslim nations to women, you will know that multiple wives and concubines are permissible under Sharia Law, that wives may be beaten or divorced at will and without penalty, that in some countries women must be entirely covered, that in some countries they are forbidden to drive cars, and so on. The attitude to women in the Koran derives directly from Muhammad’s own attitude as recorded in the Hadiths, whose interpretation is such a complex matter that I expect only an Imam would possibly be able to fully comprehend the content.

      The policy of Rise Up Australia is clear. People of all origins and faiths are welcome to make Australia home, provided they are willing to become Australians and to abandon those belief systems and elements in the laws of their country of origin that run directly counter to Australian law. The Koran/ Quran unfortunately contains verses that incite to kill those not of the Islamic faith; the book therefore is not compatible with the requirement of our Law.

      Yvonne Gentle

  5. Paul
    December 8, 2014 at 11:04 am ·

    Good one RUA, this should be spread far and wide.

    Cheers,

    Paul

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